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September 13, 2007

Yet more Brilliance from God's Christian Warriors...

Shore-Leave OIC posted...

Not that posting this will change anyone's opinion as ignorance is a choice, but I 'll post it anyways. Once in a while I have a conversation with a "sheople" that has been fed the lies of mainstream society and despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary actually believe the law enforcement should be the only armed member of society and will protect you in time of need. There have been many papers written about the lie behind gun control but I will just cut to the chase and publish what I believe gives a fair and unbalanced opinion. Thank God for freedom of speech.

[concealed weapon propaganda video]

The following [see his blog] is another good short movie you should watch and encourage others to be aware (even has a nice way to email itself) to others. This film deals with something many Americans never had to face, what happens when self-defense is outlawed. Many Americans feel firearm ownership is necessary for self-defense against rising crime rates, but the real threat comes from uniformed thugs and oppressive governments.

"Myth: Gun Control Reduces Crime"

Kønig Hasemörder said...

Victim man, "I turned around and showed them the business end of a pistol". Mustache man, "Just pulling out the gun was enough to stop them." Victim man, "Yeah, it works. Merely having a weapon and being able to display it, when I was threatened saved my life."

A gun should be pulled to shoot, not to scare.
September 12, 2007 4:19 PM

Shore-Leave OIC said...

A gun should be pulled to shoot and not to scare, but I tend to think that in the drawing phase so called "tough guys" immediately retreat. The few people who I know who actually have had to draw a weapon outside of combat, within milli-seconds of the weapon being drawn the "bad guy" ran away.

You don't want to be the guy who shot someone in the back trying to defend yourself. If you draw it and the so called "hard" badass turns into a smurf and runs for it, you just reholster your gun and that's it. But yea, your intent should be to SHOOT and not scare.

Though in many self-defense cases the prosecution WILL ask you if you gave a verbal warning, fired a warning shot, displayed your firearm even though you and I know better, a jury of our "peers" doesn't.

[The other video] isn't some back country "ya'll need guns" flick either. I found this over at stoplying.ca which has some pretty good articles and videos. Of course some people will dismiss anything on the website as it seems extremely liberal but I don't discriminate where I get information from, so I like to hear views from the whole gaumet ASSUMING these views are articulated and coherent, not just someone's personal "bent" with little to no justification. All to often "pro gun" websites just boil down to "everyone is stupid, read this!" and it the link is either the Turner Diaries or some other drivel that is heavy on opinions and personal beliefs.
September 12, 2007 5:47 PM

Woozie said...

I still find it funny that some people who say the Second Amendment doesn't protect the people's right to bear arms say that the comma (...security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed) is just a pause to catch your breath-but they can't find another comma like that anywhere else in the Constitution.
September 13, 2007 6:51 AM

Shore-Leave OIC said...

People will believe what they want to. I can only hope I am not making a similiar error in my thinking. I often think to myself if the right to bear arms can really help in peventing genocide. Does it give mankind the right to resist, does it equal the playing the field? Or will those that are weak in mind and body destined to be lambs for the slaughter. Do defenseless people choose to be that way, would they rather comply with the hope of survival than fight for their right to live?

I often wonder about some of the victims of genocide such as in Germany or under the Khmer Rouge. These people remind me so much of the American Idol/fast food eating people everywhere. The combination of ignorance and arrogance boggles the mind, and they sew their own fates. And even when they can riot, as they are being hauled off in train cars...they don't.

It reminds me a lot of the people in Virginia Tech. A few students and teachers knew things would end badly and attempted to help others or try to bum rush Cho, but others just sat there, either oblivious to what was going on as they were busy checking their email or iPods and I'm sure others just "froze" and took the bullets or played dead. Hoping maybe the crazed killer would miss or he would think they were dead. Playing possum and hoping for the best is no means of survival. God is often absent in these times, and why should he be present. We have all the tools and decision making ability to fight or at least die fighting. I don't think we are supposed to just die like cows in a cattle shoot.

Banning guns helps no one, its like taking the horns off wild beast in an attempt to lower fatalities by hikers. Its been proven it doesn't work yet people still try to "make" it work for their own political agendas and to secure their own power.

Its really scary that in the second video, the laws and registrations necessary to own and purchase a gun are similar in California. What is even more disgusting is that these big powerful governments also had a fear of "edged weapons". The whole "violence" argument doesn't hold any weight, they wanted total control and in order to do that they needed to "de-fang" society. An edged weapon? Seriously if you already outlawed guns why are you now going after edged weapons? Afraid you might get stabbed while raping someone? Its ridiculous.

But the really sad thing is some states and many politicians feel the exact same way, its as if they looked at the same video as said, "These are some good ideas!", the same could be said of George Orwell's 1987 (or whatever year)...patriot act....that's another story.

Having guns for self-defense is good, having a few extra and an assult rifle for a SHTF situation, hostile takeover, or some door to door deportation of "illegal immigrants" or "minorities" is better, but if anything, at least having one means you die fighting and standing, not naked and half starved, seperated from your family in some prison. But guns alone don't ensure your safety from criminals or oppression, it is, as was said in Full Metal Jacket, "The cold heart that kills" a warrior mindset if you will, the desire not to be a victim.
September 13, 2007 7:20 AM

Kønig Hasemörder said...

"Playing possum and hoping for the best is no means of survival. God is..."

Are you really this stupid? I would have thought natural selection would have taken care of you years ago. Oh that's right, you joined Bushes army, it's only a matter of time.

In case you haven't picked up on it yet, I'm not supporting outlawing guns and I also feel it's a good idea for competent, mentally stable, home owners to have one inside and practice at the range from time to time. Got me, Tom?

What are your thoughts of this? Updating the outdated principle of the second amendment to include this clause. Bearing arms requires one to bear them, not conceal them.
September 13, 2007 8:15 AM

Shore-Leave OIC said...

Konig, what little respect I had for you is gone. This is going past words. I don't know what your bent is and I really don't care. You got your own blog, if you want to vent against people who are in your president's army then go do it over there. Try to keep things on the discussion or STFU.

Who's Tom?

I don't think the 2nd amendment is outdated. There is a reason the US is a constitutional republic as opposed to a total democracy, and its to prevent people like you who "know better" from screwing everything up.

You don't like like the president, you don't like this country, you don't like the constitution. Fine, then take your happy ass to the nearest international airport and GTFO. The United States isn't the only country on the planet, you want something more to your liking then go to Canada or England, you won't even have to learn a second language.

I tried to answer the rest of your drivel but was unable to formulate a half descent response because I had no idea what your point was.

You don't have to post at my blog, I'm sure you can find likeminded people elsewhere on the internet.
September 13, 2007 10:14 AM

Kønig Hasemörder said...

"This is going past words."

Is that a threat my friend? Should I pull out my Shield? It's "Direct" not "Total" Demockraweed. And the Constitution was written by Atheists and Deists to keep idiots from creating A "Christian Nation" and the "Good fight" that inevitably follows.

I'll leave you alone. Go find an IED.