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May 22 2008

First up to bat

Jesus at batI’ll be representing The Tome of Communism tomorrow at 5pm Eastern time on The Blog Bunker. The topic will center around “why everyone [is] focusing on candidates’ pastors and religious affiliations - isn’t religion supposed to be separate from politics.”

I know how dorky I sound on the radio because of the time I spent on Reading Radio in New Orleans. And stumbling on someone else’s words on an obscure channel in NOLA was one thing, messing up your own words on satellite is another altogether. I can only imagine that Satellite will crystallize my shortcomings. Tonight I’m going to pray to Marx and hope it helps me more than god guides this guy.

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Apr 10 2008

Vox Smite

Published by Imperadør Hasemörder under Religion

Vox Day recently wrote a book called The Irrational Atheist. It counters the books written by “The Unholy Trinity” : Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Bertrand Russel. I have no intention of reading Vox’s book. All the arguments I’ve heard for religion are so week, I’ve become rather bored with them. To argue against arguments that are week and then to read a book about why the arguments against are week are week, just sounds like an exercise in futility. But I do agree with Vox that The Unholy Trinity make many insubstantial arguments. Why anyone looks to Darwin as a reason not to believe in god puzzles me. The fact of evolution certainly disproves the Adam and Eve story but there are hundreds of “events” in the bible that are impossible. In fact, one doesn’t even need evolution, art, in and of itself does the job. If I made the painting then god did not, if god did not then he didn’t make everything. Dawkins said it best, “There are literally an infinite amount of things that can’t be disproven.” But just because something can’t be disproven is no reason to believe in something.
I think the “Atheist movement” is doing a disservice to the fight against irrationality. In my arguing against faith I’ve noticed that all I seem to do it reinforce other peoples beliefs. If all a person needs to believe in something, is that it’s written in a book, no amount of logic or reasoning will effect that. The only thing I’m left doing is stating the reasons I don’t believe in god, that I try not to be a bad person and where I derive my ethics from. I don’t think it’s any use attempting to persuade them that their beliefs are unjustified. Doing so only starts a witch hunt, an opportunity for the “good work” or a pity party.

I like arguments against god as god is defined. But after I heard Epicuoious’ argument I felt as though I was done writing about god. It just doesn’t get better than, “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” And that argument has gone unanswered for 2300 years. I was reading a review of TIA by an atheist that credited Vox as having the best counter to the trilemma. Not supprizingly, for Vox is a game programmer, he postulates a scenario where god “Big Chilly” is a programmer and the AI (artificial intelligence) is us.

During the demo, Big Chilly and the three AI-controlled members of his fireteam had successfully taken out both the wide patrol and the guards, and they were just beginning to lay the explosives to blow the door that held the prisoners captive when there was a sudden burst of bright laser fire that caused him to jump in his seat and emit a startled shriek loud enough to make everyone else in the room jump, too. While his AI squadmates shot down the intruder before anyone’s battlesuits took too much damage, what shocked Big Chilly was that for the first time in hundreds of playings, an enemy AI had taken it upon itself to circle around behind the rescue force and attack it from an unexpected direction.

But how could this happen? How could a lowly artificial intelligence surprise a lead programmer who was demonstrably omniscient and omnipotent in the AI’s world? How can the created do what the creator did not will? The answer, when viewed in this context, should be obvious.

Surprise was possible because the programmer was not choosing to exercise either his knowledge or his power at that particular point where real-time intersected game-time. While he could have easily provided that particular character with a scripted path and prevented the character from being able to depart from it, he had already elected not to do so… And finally, while he could have been scanning that particular AI’s “thought” processes and known what it intended to do in the very instant the intention was born, instead he refrained and so learned about its actions through entirely “natural” means.

If it is not difficult to accept that an omniscient and omnipotent programmer can reject omniderigence, why should it be hard to imagine that an all-powerful God might choose to do the same? Even human lovers know that the lover cannot control the beloved, so it should not be difficult to believe that a loving God would permit His creatures to choose freely how they will live. (TIA - Pg. 281)

Vox is arguing more against free will than for god with his usage of AI. AI do not make choices. They follow programs and can not deviate from them. Any true randomness in the Demo came from the choices from Big Chilly and how the algorithms of the AI respond. Randomness is one of the philosophical area I have the most difficult time understanding. Why the universe’s nature is lumpy, random and chaotic has puzzled me. I think my problem with that though is a natural bias humans have for seeking and maintaining order. We think it’s actually possible to achieve perfect order, but most likely, a smooth universe is just like zero, impossible.

His argument for an all powerful all knowing god actually parallels the concept I latched onto throughout my twenties. I thought that if god could do everything, then he would have to be able to experience surprise, a difficult number for something omniscient. I thought that god created us to live in the back of our minds, that our minds were all versions of god, and that he experienced his universe through us to achieve ignorance and limitation. But that’s really a version of pantheism not theism. I used to think how boring it would be, to be the everything consciousness. Either you wouldn’t be able to brake your own laws or you could brake your laws and therefor there are no laws. Vox changed the definition of god to fit reality; I changed my view of reality to fit definition of god.

An entity that is at all time is incapable of making any choice. Choice requires being locked into the now and someone that is not, can not elect to do anything. Choice and intent are keystones to being an agent. A god that can not choose is no god at all. A programmer in “real-time” is not omniscient in the “game-time” world, and scanning a mind implies being bound by time. By the very definition of God, he would be a slave to himself. God could never make a law he could not brake.

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Mar 11 2008

New Sins $9.99, hooray!

Published by Imperadør Hasemörder under Religion

I’ve been trying to fart out a post about original sin for a week now. I focused on the three versions (separation from god, inherited guilt, natural tendency to sin caused by the fruit from the knowledge tree) Christians created and dissected each one. Ironically the post migrated to property, politics and the inequities of past and current social constructs. The whole concept of sin has bothered me since my Catholic school days. Sin in the mind of the believer is synonymous with wrong. In fact sins are the wrongiest wrongs of them all. The reason sin bothered me so much was the same reason all the other things in the church bothered me: the source. It simply was not enough for my young adult mind that, because something was written inside the binding of a book, that it was true, an absolute truth at that. Thus an absolute wrong that had no logical reason absolutely bothered me.

I’ve watched all the believers from all the religions declare what God desires. The Muslims will even say that it’s an insult to God (peace be upon him) to say what he’s all about. Then they’ll happily tell you what God demand of you. The common factor in all religion is faith, that magical leap element used to connect the gapping holes in religious logic. Justice is impossible if we allow for gaps in reasoning though. Right and wrong must be clear and concise or else we’re left letting the men in black robes use their opinion as the yard stick. Principles are the soul source of justice.
I’ve given a great amount of thought into right and wrong. I’ve strived to be a righteous person and needed the knowledge of right and wrong in my journey. That knowledge doesn’t cause sin, it keeps us from it. From what I’ve determined there really are only two sources of wrong. Does it cause explicit harm to another sentient being present or future and does the structure of society contain biases to any group or individual. I’m glad I’m off the righteous band wagon. It doesn’t matter how much good one does if not doing harm is ignored. Not doing wrong is all the right anyone needs to do. There’s nothing new under the hypocritic sun.

The Vatican has recently released an updated version of Capitol Wrongs, the EP of deadly sins. Six of the original deadlies: pride, envy, gluttony, greed, lust and sloth, are rather vague and in many cases don’t really cause harm in and of their self. The new sins are far more specific: Genetic manipulation (I wonder how they can ignore thousands of years of cultivation), drugs (they can ignore red wine), obscene riches (they can ignore their real estate net worth), pedophilia (I’m not even going to go there), causing social injustice and polluting. I’m sure I’m not the only one who sees the hypocrisy in the new god, priest repentable, givens.

I have no problem with people believing in invisible mute sky daddies. I have my own hauntings after all. But it seems to me that there is a real danger when masses are taught that infanticide and pollution are equal to pride or a healthy amount of stimulating envy. I’m trying not to care about other peoples beliefs and would have no problem doing so if I knew that the religious actually thought their beliefs were just beliefs. A belief is something that can be wrong. It is not a truth. A truth is a fact or a logical consistency that is eternal. The believers don’t believe their beliefs are beliefs, they believe their beliefs are facts. I don’t think I’m going to far when I say that a group declaring what I do with myself or the fruits of my labor is wrong, is wrong. Please Zeus, keep the Church out of the State and Philosophy.

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Jan 27 2008

Parallels

Published by Imperadør Hasemörder under Religion

When I entered church today I was greeted with, “we’re to see Jesus in everyone.” That’s easy enough for me because Jesus was just a man, just like me and you. During the service we praised the Father, the sun and the holy spirit. At last I’ve found a church that I feel part of the flock. I simply replaced the father for infinity, the sun for you and me and the holy spirit for zero. My mind began to wonder as I played a personal 801 service in my mind. Silence you be the reverence for zero, screaming chaotic fits for the father and everyone singing for One.

On the way out the father said that Jesus was among us. I noodled and winked. I would love to live in a world were everyone had an equality nice protocol.

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Jan 24 2008

Salvum me fac

Published by Imperadør Hasemörder under Religion

Stolen from the book of common prayer, Trinity Church New Orleans:

Help me, Lord, for their is no godly one left; the faithful have vanished from among us.

Everyone speaks falsely with his neighbor; with a smooth tongue they speak from a double heart.

Oh, that the Lord would cut off all smooth tongues, and close the lips that utter proud boasts!

Those who say, “With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own; who is lord over us?’

“because the needy are oppressed, and the poor cry out in misery, I will rise up,” says the Lord, “and give them the help they long for.”

The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined from ore and purified seven times in the fire.

O Lord, watch over us and save us from this generation for ever.

The wicked prowl on every side, and that which is worthless is highly prized by everyone.

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